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Dept of Navy Records show that he attended BUD/S . But never completed the training. He is NOT a Navy SEAL
I greatly appreciate your interest in upholding the honor of Teams, and your search for the TRUTH. Before answering your questions I must make clear that I am a individual, not affiliated with Dept. of or any other organization. My efforts to expose imposters are performed as a service to the public, and in honor of my fallen Teammates… men truly earned the right to the title “US ” but are no longer able to stand in of their honor, their reputations their TEAMs.
If the name you provided is spelled correctly, I do NOT find a listing in the ( Teams and predecessor units from1943 to the Present Day) for named JOSEPH PATRICK JOYCE. I have also examined possible alternate spellings, and names with similar pronunciations without finding any that appear to be applicable. There are only FOUR () men with the name “JOYCE” listed in the entirety of the 17,300+ entries in the ; of those four men has the first/middle names “JOSEPH PATRICK” or anything even close in spelling or pronunciation.
Unless he has undertaken the unlikely action of a legal name change (an action for which there would be evidence in the form of court documentation) his claimed parti cipation in training, and based upon the information you have provided, I can conclusively that JOSEPH PATRICK JOYCE has NEVER COMPLETED training, and he is not now, nor was he ever a , a UDT “Frogman a member of any Demolition Unit (NCDU), or a member of the Amphibious Scouts Raiders (S&R).
When members of the Special Warfare community meet others claim similar service, but they do not recognize, there is a conversational exchange of information that establishes the bona fides of to the other. There is no set for this exchange, nor for the information that is exchanged, but it ALWAYS takes place, and the REAL Special Warfare members can ALWAYS spot an as a result of this exchange. If Mr. JOYCE persists in insisting that his claims are legitimate, I might s uggest that you ask him these questions:
- there is no listing in the for the name you are currently using, WHAT NAME DID YOU USE during training?
-What was his Training Class Number? (No ever forgets his class number, and there are no secret classes)?
-Where did his training take place? (Training has been conducted at several locations the ; portions in places)?
-When did he from training? ( a specific graduation DAY/DATE)?
-What were his and Secondary Enlisted Classification (NEC) codes, or what was his Officer Billet Code (NOBC)?
-Which (s) did you serve on, and when?
The answers to those questions are totally UNCLASSIFIED, and every real gladly provide that substantiating information upon request.
Before any classified operations may be undertaken as a Operator, a must first successfully complete the Basic Demolition/ (BUD/S) Training program and then the follow-on secondary training program. The names of all those successfully from that training program sequence are compiled in the . Later participation in classified operations has no impact on whether or not a person is listed as a of the training program. There are records of every has qualified f or the title of “”; there have been and continue to be secret missions, but there are NO secret .
Once again I must stress that although I am veteran, and a , I am a civilian performing in an entirely unofficial role. As you are involved in a legal matter with formal court proceedings, I strongly recommend that you instruct your legal to obtain a formal/official US statement regarding Mr. JOSEPH PATRICK JOYCE’s claimed credentials. To do so your legal may contact the PUBLIC AFFAIRS at the SPECIAL WARFARE COMMAND in by calling (619) 522-2823, or may contact the FOIA COORDINATOR at the SPECIAL WARFARE COMMAND in , , and submit a formal FREEDOM OF INFORMATION in writing addressed to:
Special Warfare Command
2000 Trident Way
, CA 92155
Thank you again for your concern in this matter, and for your assistance in upholding the honor of Teams. If I can be of any assistance to you in this matter, please contact me at your convenience.
Steve Robinson RM2()
< FONT face=" New Roman, ">Inshore Undersea Warfare ONE
Analyst – Soviet Threat specialization 1981-1993
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Special Warfare Archives - SOF Analyst/Contributing
- Life Member
Special Investigator - Authentication
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